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TarcellaCella · May 07, 2007, 03:42 PM // 15:42

What bow is best suited for a Barrager? I'm sorry, but i really can't be anymore specific than that

I hope someone can still give me some advice/guidance as to what i should choose

Thanks!

GoodEnoughForMe · May 07, 2007, 04:34 PM // 16:34

Perfect Max Vampiric Flatbow of Fortitude.

For Green's, Drago's Vampiric Flatbow works well. Use something like favorable winds to reduce arc, and then you have a fast firing, long rage bow.

yarddog · May 07, 2007, 05:07 PM // 17:07

although a vamp bow is very nice for barrage, i find sometimes that energy becomes a concern. i prefer to use a zealous modded bow, longbow,storm,flat, whatever your preference is.
i have been playing a splinter ranger lately and with the energy cost of splinter/barrage and a zealous bow, i have no issues with energy. just my 2 cents worth. have fun

XvArchonvX · May 07, 2007, 05:55 PM // 17:55

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Originally Posted by GoodEnoughForMe

Perfect Max Vampiric Flatbow of Fortitude.

For Green's, Drago's Vampiric Flatbow works well. Use something like favorable winds to reduce arc, and then you have a fast firing, long rage bow.

Qft. Zealous really shouldn't be needed imo. Run at least 9 in expertise with 16 in marks of course and if you still have energy problems, then you should rethink the rest of your skill bar or raise expertise.

milias · May 07, 2007, 06:03 PM // 18:03

I used to run 16 Marks and 15 Exp, and had no problems with energy whatsoever, even with other skills thrown in, like Distracting and Savage and Comfort. I now run with 13 Exp, and still have no problems with energy for the most part, unless it's a really protracted battle, and I have to spam Distracting and Savage and Comfort all at the same time. So I'd say you probably want to have Exp at 13, even 9 is a bit low, depending on your build.

EDIT: I use a Vampiric Flatbow of Fortitude, by the way. Sometimes I also use a Sundering Stormbow of Fortitude or Vampiric Mursaat Hornbow of Fortitude, mostly for the look.

Nkah Sennyt · May 07, 2007, 11:24 PM // 23:24

I prefer either a hornbow or a recurve bow - I'd rather fire my shots faster with a longer range, than fire them slower with great range [and more misses!]. Definitely vampiric. For attributes, I usually go 11+1+3 expertise and 11+1 marks.

Epinephrine · May 08, 2007, 01:02 AM // 01:02

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Originally Posted by Nkah Sennyt

I prefer either a hornbow or a recurve bow - I'd rather fire my shots faster with a longer range, than fire them slower with great range [and more misses!]. Definitely vampiric. For attributes, I usually go 11+1+3 expertise and 11+1 marks.

This makes no sense. The above posters have said Flatbow (longest range, highest RoF) and you are choosing bows with lower RoF AND lower ranges, but saying you like long ranges and firing fast? Maybe I'm missing what you mean?

Max DPS via Barrage is a short or flat bow. Flat bow gets you extra range, but you may miss more shots. I use a flatbow myself, and have several to choose from (Fiery/Enchanting, Zealous, Vampiric).

SnipiousMax · May 08, 2007, 02:43 PM // 14:43

Flatbow/shortbow is the best choice for Barraging, barring use of an IAS because they give the quickest barrages. But it is not a stretch at all to use an IAS, in which case the inate AP of a Hornbow makes up for the slow refire rate. Flail for example, is very easy to use with a Barrage build,.

Nkah Sennyt · May 08, 2007, 04:21 PM // 16:21

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Originally Posted by Epinephrine

This makes no sense. The above posters have said Flatbow (longest range, highest RoF) and you are choosing bows with lower RoF AND lower ranges, but saying you like long ranges and firing fast? Maybe I'm missing what you mean?

Max DPS via Barrage is a short or flat bow. Flat bow gets you extra range, but you may miss more shots. I use a flatbow myself, and have several to choose from (Fiery/Enchanting, Zealous, Vampiric).

I was dumb and for some reason was thinking flatbow = longbow or something. I had just woken up, takes awhile to lose my stupid. >.>

Firestone · May 08, 2007, 04:28 PM // 16:28

used to use a flatbow for barrage... but changed to longbow / recurve...
the miss rate is too high for comfort, especially in HM, where the monsters run fast.

EDIT:

For Ranger primary: Use either vamp, sundering string

For Ranger secondary (4e pip): Use Zealous string

For Ranger secondary (2e pip): Tell me again.. why are u making a barrager? o.0;

Orange Milk · May 08, 2007, 04:32 PM // 16:32

I run splinter weapon/barrage at 9 expertise and never have an E problem.

Barrage is 8+1 expertise all day, only time I ever go higher is if I'm soloing with that vig spirit/live vicariously build, but then the 12 in exp is to make my stances last longer, not for the barraging.

I barrage with a Vamp, depending on the situation, either short, long or Shadow.

Higher exp that marks I really don't see as a good Idea, but I guess doing less dmg you need more expertise for Energy as the battle will last alot longer.

Sophitia Leafblade · May 09, 2007, 09:03 AM // 09:03

I barrage with sundering normally, Vampiric on High AL areas and Elemental when using Conjures. Ive yet to have any energy issues and so ive never used a Zealous mod.

Longbow/Flatbow for long ranged Barraging, Hornbow/shortbow for closer range barraging (increased fire-rate and damage)

bungusmaximus · May 09, 2007, 01:20 PM // 13:20

What's the big deal anyways with sundering bows? I don't know exact numbers but a small chance for an armor piercing hit on a bow isn't exactly spectacular imo.

XvArchonvX · May 09, 2007, 01:56 PM // 13:56

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Originally Posted by bungusmaximus

What's the big deal anyways with sundering bows? I don't know exact numbers but a small chance for an armor piercing hit on a bow isn't exactly spectacular imo.

Most people use it as a crutch when they aren't comfortable with weapon swapping. Others just use it as a weapon to switch to when they switch off their vamp weapon.

Ishtar Serket · May 09, 2007, 02:16 PM // 14:16

Any type of Vampiric Bow really. If you need a zealous bow with barrage your Expertise is obviously too low. I can easily spam Barrage in areas where there's no break in battle for stretches of time (Vizunah for example) without any real energy issues so just take a vamp bow. The range of the weapon doesn't matter too much although if your marksmanship is lower, you'll want a bow thats closer range so you don't miss as much.

bungusmaximus · May 09, 2007, 02:31 PM // 14:31

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Originally Posted by XvArchonvX

Most people use it as a crutch when they aren't comfortable with weapon swapping. Others just use it as a weapon to switch to when they switch off their vamp weapon.

ROFLMBO that's just sick, people are selling Urgoz' Longbow for 100k + ectos while it has more or less the crappiest mods in the game

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Jetdoc · May 09, 2007, 03:52 PM // 15:52

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Originally Posted by bungusmaximus

ROFLMBO that's just sick, people are selling Urgoz' Longbow for 100k + ectos while it has more or less the crappiest mods in the game

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It sells for so much because of the awesome appearance.

The same can be said for the Mursaat Hornbow, which is probably the worst bow in the game (functionality wise).

XvArchonvX · May 09, 2007, 06:06 PM // 18:06

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Originally Posted by bungusmaximus

ROFLMBO that's just sick, people are selling Urgoz' Longbow for 100k + ectos while it has more or less the crappiest mods in the game

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I wouldn't say it's the crappiest mod in the game. When I go B/P I bring a Vampiric Flatbow and a Sundering Longbow. When Fav Winds drops and enemies are moving, when I am not attacking or when I am under a lot of fire I switch to the longbow. The dps is less, but it's something reliable to use at the right times.

Also, Urgoz's Longbow has one of the best skins for a bow in the game imo.

Ishtar Serket · May 09, 2007, 08:13 PM // 20:13

Like they said, the mods are pretty much inconsequential with the Longbow since people get it for its skin. I have one that I use often when I'm using an energy intensive build. It fits well with my 15k Druid's armour as well, sort of a matching pair. The price for them is for the unique skin, nothing more.

Coloneh · May 09, 2007, 09:03 PM // 21:03

flatbows are best with barrage. usually vampiric but zealous if you have low expertise.